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After a VACANT news update, Michelle and Heather Nunnelly answer a question from one of the listeners about getting inspiration from things that you hate.

Then they dive into a discussion about self-esteem. They give advice on how to deal with low self-esteem and they share their own troubles battling self-doubt.

They give a shoutout to Megan Brennan, the artist of School of World. Also, they announce Ross Campbell as the special guest for next week’s podcast!

Oh… and after the end theme? Then Michelle farts